It’s showtime! 3 tips for band practise.

Shit the bed! It only seems like a few days ago since the lovely lads of Brotherhood asked us to support them at a super secret(at the time) show at Rescue Rooms. Now it’s only a few days away! Yesterday we headed off to the rehearsal room, strapped on our guitars and grabbed the drumsticks for the last time before the big show. How are we feeling? Well, 80% major excitement and 20% squeaky bum time but thats all good. It’s healthy to be nervous in some degree before something as great as this show, it keeps you on your game! Having said that, we feel ready, and I mean super duper tight as a ducks arse ready! We couldn’t be happier with how the band is sounding right now. Not only are the songs tight but they come alive, they build, they decay, they climax and they leave you feeling good!

About the show itself, the doors will open at 6pm and Kelsey Shaw will be opening up the evening from about 7pm ish. Those little sausages of 5th Order 😉 will be hitting the stage from around 7.35pm and then Brotherhood after 8.30pm. Do arrive as early as you can so you don’t miss any of the action. Remember that the show is SOLD OUT so it will be tight at the gig and probably a bit sweaty so come dressed nice as casual.

On the night, we will have CD copies of our album for sale on the merch stand so go grab one if you don’t own one already.

All info is posted by Matt in the Brotherhood facebook group, so hang around on there if you need anything.

Are you ready?

Joey x


Here are some tips on how to smash band practise.

1.Practise every aspect of the show

Our last few rehearsals over the past month or so have been pretty straight forward as most of the technical work had been completed some time ago and we had the structure of each song perfected. So recently its been a case of just rattling through the set as we would on the night, over and over and over again until it almost bores you. Thats when you know that you can play them on ‘autopilot’ and focus on putting on a show. We even practise walking on and off stage to the intro and outros to get the timing right. We also rehearse everything that we are going to say between songs. Everything is choreographed to some extent. Trust me it feels very weird doing this and you feel like a right bellend in the practise room but it is definitely worth the embarrassment in rehearsal to avoid embarrassment on the night.

2. Film every single session

This is so important, there is so much you can learn from watching back each session because over time you can see the overall improvement of the band, very satisfying to watch! You can also spot mistakes that might be difficult to notice when you are actually playing. Getting a good idea of what the band will look like on stage is a really powerful asset to have. You don’t have to go fancy with this either, just a smartphone propped up somewhere is fine. We are currently toying with filming our sessions on a DSLR and recording the audio from the usb recording function of our Yamaha desk. This can double up as content for social media!

3. Get together more often

It’s easy enough to understand that the more you practise the better you will be, practise makes perfect after all. For a covers band, practising once or twice per week is fine, and you can even drop practise altogether if you are gigging all weekend, every weekend and only rehearse when your learning new material. For Originals, it’s a different kettle of little fishies. Let’s say you are a post punk band (like ourselves). You are essentially competing with the like of Editors, White lies etc. I think those guys rehearse for more than 2 hours once a fortnight. Get together and play as a band as often as possible. I know it’s hard to find time, we’ve all got work and family’s and all that shit.

What I would say though, in my opinion shorter and more frequent sessions of 3 hours or so are better than huge day long sessions once in a blue moon. I don’t know if you have played a les paul for more than 3 hours in one go but my god it’s back breaking. Kills your mood. Take a coffee break halfway through each session and have a natter, talk shit and mess about for 5 minutes, loosen up.

Let’s hear your tips for a great rehearsal session,

Comment below!





The Music Video

Back again! It’s scary how fast the weeks go by. We will be on our billionth blog before long! I hope you are all doing well! I’d like to thank you all for your lovely messages of support last week, I was quite down and you guys cheered me up again. Chris, Dave & John have been amazing as well this week, I’ve been struggling through but I am back fighting fit and ready for the world!

I’ve just posted a video on our Facebook page, the making of our music video to ‘Fairy Lights in Summer’. I though that this week I’d go a bit more in-depth about the whole process of it all. It was a rocky start I have to say, we had never done a music video of any kind before so as a band we didn’t really have a clue on what to do or how to do it. That’s where our John stepped in and sorted us out, he’s rate talented in this game and he came up with some mega ideas. He told us to give him some examples of our favourite kind of music video. We all agreed that we should nod to Blondie’s ‘Long Time’, we love how cool it looks! Lots of black and white with the shots from the taxi, really edgy band shots too! So with that theme in mind we left John to work his magic and come up with a story for it.

The night before the actual shoot, me and John went out in my car, which had 300 go-pros attached to the roof! Oh that reminds me, I’m chuckling while sat writing this… As john was fixing said Go-pros to the car, I mentioned that I have some footage from a friends go-pro from when he’s been out on his motorbike, he ‘had it attached to his helmet’. As soon as I said it we were both brought down with laughter paralysis. Dirty minded or what! We drove around for a few hours to capture the road and traffic shots, which turned out great! The shot of us following the Mustang was a great one! Whilst filming that, John was filming me lip-sync to the track from the back seat. Bare in mind that I have one of those new mini things, obviously not as small as a classic mini but it was still hilarious to see John squidged into the tiny back seat, lolling back and forth as we sped around corners and over bumps with endless amounts of camera tackle rolling all over the place. My driving isn’t that bad is it? Getting a steady shot was proving difficult but we got it in the end.

On the following afternoon/evening, we all met at Derby Road College for the band shoot, accompanied by our friend Jacob Dowling, who was filming the behind the scenes making of video throughout the shoot. We set up in the tv studio as we would if we were going to play a show, and performed thousands (what seemed thousands) of takes of the song, syncing to the playback. It’s all a bit weird to be singing a song as a band but not really doing anything. We were kind of silently plodding through it which was pretty strange. We got used to it pretty quickly though and you realise that you have to act a bit.

John had a great idea to chuck a load of rice onto Dave’s floor tom, you know, to get it all flying about when he’s twatting it during the intro to the song. Chris looked a bit puzzled at first, as if to say “whats this guy doing walking about with a bag of rice”. As john was pouring the rice onto Dave’s kit, Chris said “Chuck some watter on it” (a nod to a queen video I think). John doubled up laughing and eventually was able to reply “Watter?! We aren’t making a fucking rice pudding!”. This wasn’t a great start to our ‘no swearing policy’. Because we were filming everything between takes for the making of video, we had to be careful of our language. That’s difficult for us when we get together as all conversation turns into ‘pub talk’ with lots of effin n jeffin.

Do go and have a look at the ‘making of’ video, it’s on our Facebook page! Please give our Jacob some love too.

Swearing is not cool man!

Over n aaahhhht.

Joey x

Our story so far…

June 2017

Nine months old we are, not quite time for happy birthday but it feels like we have been in this band forever, that’s because we are having such a great time obviously! Being in an original band is really something different, it is so much of a challenge trying to promote our music, we are learning something new everyday! It is a bit of a minefield strategy wise, some things work, some do not but ho-hum it’s all trial and error – we will get there!

I’ll tell you our story from when we founded 5th Order in October 2016. I had a random text message from out of nowhere from our Chris (Bassist) saying that it would be a great idea to have a side project, something to make for our own enjoyment. “Or8 dude, fancy starting an original band, b nice ta mek n album for oursens ay”. Of course I said yes and Dave (drummer) was roped in with immediate effect and with little choice. Seconds after replying to said text message I began to write songs – frantically! It was really strange because I had only written one song in seven years, “For the Love Of Amy (Out Of Time). In the void of time where I had not even attempted to write anything, I had no reason to write, I had seemingly much better things to do and little inspiration to motivate me onto the creative path. It’s bizarre to think that one simple text message can make you give up all of your time, drop everything and write a whole album (and beyond) in just under seven months. All of a sudden I had something to write for, and that ‘Void of dead time’ was actually spent touring the country with our covers act ‘Last Stand’ which has filled my head with buckets of inspiration. Growing as a musician in that time certainly played it’s part too. Chris and Dave are fantastic writers, both have great vision in where a song needs to go, where as I could easily turn a pop/rock song into a forty minute prog song if left to my own devises.

The name

A few days after receiving this almost life changing text from our Chris, the three of us met at the Dandy Cock pub (cupboard) in Kirkby to form a plan. The dreaded debate over our band name ensued. Anybody in a band will know that thinking of a band name is the hardest part and possibly the most crucial decision ever! Can it be spelled easily? Will people remember it? Can they search it on Facebook?

We ended up with a shortlist of three names, one each which was fair. Chris’s name was ‘5th Order’, Dave’s was ‘In Our Image’ and mine was ‘Motion Owl’. The winner is obvious and apparent now, we all loved 5th Order, it sounds a little dark and mean doesn’t it? We are generally moody by nature. Not entirely sure where Chris thought of the name, probably something to do with a Logic pa crossover or something (he’s a gear geek).

‘Motion Owl’ also won! We decided that it sounded much more like a song or album title and we loved the pun on ’emotional’. Not that we are an emo band in any way, we totally understand that music must form an emotional connection with the listener, it must engage in some way.

Our conversation in the pub soon drifted way off topic and headed of into the typical dream world of every unsigned original band out there. “Glastonbury next year? We could end up on Jools Holland”  – That all being said while snorting with laughter into a pint of mild. We are under no illusion that this project is going to take everything we have, it’s going to need tons of hard work. It’s a good job we love it! We could go five albums in without a sniff but who gives a shit? We are loving it, and so are our friends and family. There is a buzz about the band and it’s something I’ve never really felt with any other project.

We recently sold off fifty signed copies of our album as a pre-sale, this worked so well! We were only expecting to sell a few but we sold out! We are blown away by the support from our fans, we cannot wait to share more! Playing our songs live will do it for me, I am literally bursting to perform! Good thing we have our first rehearsal on Monday isn’t it!

So for now I just want to thank you lovely people for getting involved and buying into us and our music! Your support is everything! As for our latest followers on Facebook and Instagram, welcome to the family!

A special mention to our manager Mr John Davey, he is an absolute legend and working so hard for us! Give him some love on the Facebook poking machine. He would like that.

Next week I will tell you all about the making of the album!

Tarra ducks,